Hi Billy is this rock 96.3

I would like to make a song request...



Big Rob for the record

Nazareth started this and are the ones that fired the 1st shot with their "Urgent News".



Im disappointed in Nazareth "We don't air our dirty laundry" By slagging off on Manny on their website, before the full truth of the matter was known.. Not professional in my books.



Nazareth have no need to tour USA, interesting comment,

Is this Nazareth belief or your own personal belief.

I'm sure the US fans would like to know.



Manny hates touring - Maybe he just hated touring with Nazareth.



Manny will do quite well just touring the states - rumour has it he'll be openning for acts like ZZtop, Ted Nugent etc..



Sorry Billy for some reason i lost my train of thought

why am i here,

oh yes

I would like to request a song



Could you play "Please Don't Judas Me" by Nazareth

Hey Billy,



Instead of Nazareth 3, you and Zal could join Manny on tour. How cool would that be?



The "URGENT NEWS" was a bad move on Pete's and Dan's part. They should have kept their thoughts to themselves and let their attorneys sort this out. Calling the guy who co-wrote so many great songs, produced their biggest selling records a thief is pretty harsh. Pete and Dan should be ashamed of themselves for saying that. I'm very disappointed in Pete and Dan and have lost a lot of respect for them. It's a sad thing to see.







Mike

Well...how do I begin? I will say I support Manny all the way in what he does.Manny made Nazareth into what they are.Yes,Dan has a great voice and there will never be another voice like his but Manny is the man with the brains when it comes to composing the music.Now I am very disappointed in what Dan and Pete did in posting their "Urgent News" and that wasnt necessary.That should have been left in private and between attorneys.I think it was an attempt to get everyone to turn against Manny.But from what I understand,Manny still can use the name Nazareth if he wishes.He is still a shareholder of the band.If Dan and Pete does not wish to come to the USA again and tour....then as much as I hate to say it but then its thier lost.Maybe it would be a great idea for Manny to carry the name Nazareth for the USA.Who is to say that Manny cant use the name Nazareth anyways? Have you listened to any of the new Nazareth songs? And when I say new I mean the same familiar songs with the new sound.They are great! I hope I didnt blab to long or to much.Lets enjoy the music.Just Keep It Rockin,Ray

MKDoorman, I do believe Manny's 'Open letter' was the first shot,Nazareth just responded to it. However I too wish this whole thing had been kept under wraps by both parties until they had it sorted out.

The reason I spoke about Nazareth not needing to tour the US was that they haven't for many years, and whilst I'm sure they might like to, I don't think they need to.

Manny did state that after several days touring with 'From Behind ' he felt suicidal.It was therefore my assumption that he didn't like the touring life. My Bad if I'm wrong.

On the subject of US fans, it will be interesting to see how they feel about a band calling itself Nazareth with no Dan McCafferty.

Yep at present Manny can call his band Nazareth, whether that remains the case in the future is to be seen.

I think it's only fair to the fans to state up front that it is a different band to Nazareth.

Manny Charlton's Nazareth sounds OK doesn't it ?



Ray, you mentioned Manny carrying the Naz name only in the USA, do you honestly think he would succeed in Europe pulling the same stunt?



I will reserve judgement on Manny, until I hear the new Nazareth album and compare it to Manny Charlton's Nazareth album (that is coming right ?)or is this just a tribute act, a vehicle for Manny to let rip on some old Naz tunes.

I don't hate Manny, in fact I think alot of him, as a guitarist and his body of work. I'm just dissapointed he did this and the timing is really circumspect.:(

Rob, I beg to differ with you on who took the first shot. In the open letter to the fans, there's are no derogatory statements. It's very respectfully written. Mr.'s Agnew (senior) and McCafferty on the other hand have crossed the line of decency in the URGENT NEWS by saying, quote: "Thankfully, all the other ex-members of Nazareth have not decided to steal our name, otherwise we could have five different Nazareth's out there". Calling someone a thief is slanderous. That was the first shot. Would you not agree? The other thing I found to be quite despicable on the part of Mr.'s Agnew (senior) and McCafferty was, quote: "We ask you real Nazareth fans to look out for any advertised shows trying to sell this bogus band and warn other people, including the venues, that this is not Nazareth and guide them to our website". Trying to get the fans involved in this is not very smart on Pete's and Dan's part.





Mike

Rob -

You have every right to post your opinions. It would be great if they weren't so misleading or taken out of context.



I will stick to my guns of who fired the first shot.

Mannys open letter was posted one week after the "Urgent News" posting



I do keep backup records of threads and posts I'm interested in.

Anyone can get to the bottom of this with a quick investigation.

Check out back postings in the Nazareth forum.

Sorry I forgot the posting "Urgent News" was removed by the administrators.

Don't fret I could post them if need be or maybe you can ask your administrators to dig them up for you.

It remains a dissapointment to the fact that Nazareth still have "Urgent News" posted in the news section on their board.

Bravo to Mannys forum who took the high road and handled it in a professional matter.

As far as responding to the other part of your posting

I'm not getting into a pis#$@ng contest with fans and the ill informed.

It's interesting no one has offered any kind of rebuttal to the last 2 messages. What does that tell you?



It'll be interesting to see how this situation develops.







Mike

Basically I can't be bothered with you Guy's at the moment. As Mr Doorman said "I'm not getting into a pis#$@ng contest with fans and the ill informed."



I'd rather look forward to the 40th anniversary gigs, I can get to with the only Nazareth I need IMHO.

'When you wear grudges'

Hi all

been a fan since 73. 35 years aint too bad and I have earned the right to comment, what is nazareth two out of how many others (10 different people in total i think)

too much bad blood from the band who sacked guitarist(s)

therefor my new signature on both forums is:



'When you wear grudges

You carry the never ending load

At age 50 I learned i may never forgive, never forget but came to understand that nothing would fix the past apart from accepting that grudges belonged in the past.

and to live just for the future.'

Happy 2008

Paul

'When you wear grudges' Hi all been a fan since 73. 35 years aint too bad and I have earned the right to comment, what is nazareth two out of how many others (10 different people in total i think) too much bad blood from the band who sacked guitarist(s) therefor my new signature on both forums is: 'When you wear grudges You carry the never ending load At age 50 I learned i may never forgive, never forget but came to understand that nothing would fix the past apart from accepting that grudges belonged in the past. and to live just for the future.' Happy 2008 Paul

Comment: 'When you wear grudges' Hi all been a fan since 73. 35 years aint too bad and I have earned the right to comment, what is nazareth two out of how many others (10 different people in total i think) too much bad blood from the band who sacked guitarist(s) therefor my new signature on both forums is: 'When you wear grudges You carry the never ending load At age 50 I learned i may never forgive, never forget but came to understand that nothing would fix the past apart from accepting that grudges belonged in the past. and to live just for the future.' Happy 2008 Paul

'When you wear grudges' Hi all been a fan since 73. 35 years aint too bad and I have earned the right to comment, what is nazareth two out of how many others (10 different people in total i think) too much bad blood from the band who sacked guitarist(s) therefor my new signature on both forums is: 'When you wear grudges You carry the never ending load At age 50 I learned i may never forgive, never forget but came to understand that nothing would fix the past apart from accepting that grudges belonged in the past. and to live just for the future.' Happy 2008 Paul

Waaaawww I bet Billy is loving this !!



Ok here is`my take on things , there are some questions that no one is asking ?



First of all why after 17 years and different solo bands and solo CD's has Manny decided to go out on tour as Nazareth with another band that have their own history which by the way hasnt managed to make it on the bio page of Nazarethlive.



Answers on a post card ..... well my answer MONEY !!! folks , not the love of the music , not the celebration of the music MONEY thats all . Heres why I think why ... earlier this year we had Manny trying to sell his Gibson and the Guns N Roses demos's , that I understand as far as the gibson is concerned was not succesfull although I may be wrong . 17 years without a proper job and selling a few hundred solo cd's ...if that must take its toll . Then there is the new DVD called Hair of the Dog , anyone notice the art work of this reissued DVD is the same art work featured on the Nazarethlive website ?? Wonder if Dan and Pete know about this one ... by the way you can purchase the river records dvd cheaper than this new one brought out by some American company I think :-)



I dont think any Nazareth fan would grudge Manny making a living , thats why as fans we have all supported him through the years buying his solo CD's and old Nazareth concerts through his website .

But what I do think many but clearly not all fans grudge is Manny destroying the Nazareth brand and legacy that he helped make by going out as a second Nazareth. Many people have argued that bands like the Driffters , Bay City Rollers and so on have more than one incarnation. But let me tell you what I think of when you mention these type of bands ... a joke , a holiday camp band , guys going out to make money .



What ever anyones opinion is on the current band is you can not take away the fact that Dan and Pete have remained in the band that has recorded and toured for 40 years.



Regarding the statement on the Naz forum well iam glad they made a statement , because before they broke the news Manny hadnt even mentioned it on his own website ,although there were whispers on the forum with no explanation and the wheels were already in motion regarding booking shows , creating new websites and so on .Remember folks this is a new bussiness venture and that takes months of planning . I feel his administrators were forced into making a comment. If Naz hadnt made a statement then would we have had Naz fanz turning up to the nazarethlive shows thinking Naz were back with Manny , with the name NAZARETH with founding member Manny Charlton people would think that !



What I think the best part of this situation is that we are discussing this on Billy Rankin's blog .... wonder why Nazarethlive doesnt have a forum yet .... perhaps scare off potential bookings :-)



No doubt all you Naz and Manny nutters will have your nickers in a twist over this post but as someone once said .... let the money do the talking and I know where who's Nazareth my money's on . THE REAL NAZARETH :-)

"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists".

-George Bush



No straddling the fence here folks, Euro-Naz has drawn a line in the sand (read their urgent news message). If you would pay to see both bands instead of calling the venue trying to get Am-Naz canceled, then you are with the terrorists!



I think I'll throw "Shake" in the cd player.



Bax

hello when you consider that Nazareth has had ten individuals within the band over the last 30 years who has the rights to the name?

after all the name calling and friction i changed my signature on both naz and Manny's sites

maybe naz treats their long term fans like guitarists and sacks them.

quote:signature

'When you wear grudges

You carry the never ending load

At age 50 I learned i may never forgive, never forget but came to understand that nothing would fix the past apart from accepting that grudges belonged in the past.

and to live just for the future.'

Paul

nazareth the band who have used 10 different musicians in their time.

my signature on the websites (Manny and Naz)is

'When you wear grudges

You carry the never ending load

At age 50 I learned i may never forgive, never forget but came to understand that nothing would fix the past apart from accepting that grudges belonged in the past.

and to live just for the future.'

So come on drop the animosity

Paul

Well, poster number 13 above "real nazareth fan" got it close to the truth; ie;



1. Manny has not had a job for 17 years; his solo work has not been successful (sales-wise), and his attempts at selling guitars, DVDs and various old bootlegs have also proved to be unsuccesful. Manny has come to realise what most people already know: bands of yester-year earn most from TOURING; everyone from Rolling Stones and The Who through to Bay City Rollers know it, Nazareth knows it and finally; Manny knows it. So; let there be no doubt; this is done because of MONEY and MONEY alone.



2. It can be argued whether what Manny does is right or wrong. -Those agreeing with Manny will point out that he has an 1/4th of the right to the Band name and therefore has the right to do this. -Though legally might be the case, in practical terms for the fans it means that this put the Nazareth name on par with previously mentioned monkey names such as Sweet and Bay City Rollers which is a very sad thing to see for most fans.



3. The only real and proper solution to this would be if all 3 surviving members reunite under the Nazareth banner. -However, I do not think that Pete/Dan would want to cut their salary for anyone and Manny has stirred up things too far for that to ever happen now. How unfortunate.



For my part; this is the final end to the Nazareth story; former members and fans arguing tit-for-tat and "cover bands" touring trying to recapture the olden days playing old songs. There aint going to be another hit nazareth record, there aint going to be a good gig to go to and nobody will ever sign these petty bands other than tiny labels looking for a cheap buck.



Thanks and goodbye; good bless Billy for still surviving!

Well, poster number 13 above "real nazareth fan" got it close to the truth; ie;



1. Manny has not had a job for 17 years; his solo work has not been successful (sales-wise), and his attempts at selling guitars, DVDs and various old bootlegs have also proved to be unsuccesful. Manny has come to realise what most people already know: bands of yester-year earn most from TOURING; everyone from Rolling Stones and The Who through to Bay City Rollers know it, Nazareth knows it and finally; Manny knows it. So; let there be no doubt; this is done because of MONEY and MONEY alone.



2. It can be argued whether what Manny does is right or wrong. -Those agreeing with Manny will point out that he has an 1/4th of the right to the Band name and therefore has the right to do this. -Though legally might be the case, in practical terms for the fans it means that this put the Nazareth name on par with previously mentioned monkey names such as Sweet and Bay City Rollers which is a very sad thing to see for most fans.



3. The only real and proper solution to this would be if all 3 surviving members reunite under the Nazareth banner. -However, I do not think that Pete/Dan would want to cut their salary for anyone and Manny has stirred up things too far for that to ever happen now. How unfortunate.



For my part; this is the final end to the Nazareth story; former members and fans arguing tit-for-tat and "cover bands" touring trying to recapture the olden days playing old songs. There aint going to be another hit nazareth record, there aint going to be a good gig to go to and nobody will ever sign these petty bands other than tiny labels looking for a cheap buck.



Thanks and goodbye; good bless Billy for still surviving!

Well I just wanted to say that I am still seeing a few "non facts" again but on this blog instead of else where.If anybody really knows Manny and really knows whats going on is me. On posting number 18 in referring to Manny not having a job.....well it is not true.Let me explain in a way that I hope I can get some people to understand where I am going with this statement.This will get to the point I am getting at in referring to posting number 18."Manny has not worked for 17 years" In the beginning I mentioned to Manny about starting a Myspace page,Manny finally agreed.The the idea came up about selling CDs on Myspace.Fact one: Manny was not concerned in selling CDs as he makes real money in other ways.But,I guess you can say he had been convinced to sell CDs anyways.(Manny was not concerned in anyway of doing this)Fact two: Manny has been very busy working in his own recording studio and for some time too.There are some accomplishments worth mentioning,Guns N Roses for starters.If Manny was not recording for other bands then he was producing other bands.Thats a fact!! The money was other projects and not selling CDs.But still,Manny made time to record and produce some solo CDs for his fans.As for Manny selling his guitars.....so what!! He can sell anything he wants.He doesnt HAVE to keep anything that he doesnt want.Again,as I have said,I know whats the real deal is between Manny and Nazareth.Everyone is speaking rubbish with no facts.Unless you really KNOW whats going on then there is no need to talk.I will never tell anybody but I am sure that one day you will find out once the legal stuff is done and over with.This talk is between Manny,Dan and Pete.At least Manny has his forum under control.Why go to a forum where everybody is arguing when its nobodys business in the first place? Of course I expect to see a argument made to me about this posting but all I can say is ...Keep Rockin,Ray

Some good posts there....



Money? Of course Manny's Naz will be in it for the money. I'm in my job for the money. Dan and Pete hardly carry Nazareth about only for the love of it. They're in it for the money too. What's wrong with that? And Naz give value for money, no question. But who's to say that 'Manny's' Naz won't? They might just rock!!



Comparisons with other bands. Yes, Naz are hugh in Russia. But The Bay City Rollers still get mobbed in Japan. When Naz play in the UK, they play the same venues such as BC Slade, T-Rextasy, Alvin Stardust, and Slade play. And for many people, Naz are at the same level as these groups. The Slade comparison is actually a good one. Another huge 70's band with 2 original members left, and a band who's plateau was even higher than Nazareth's at their respective peaks.



If the court decides Manny has the legal right to use the name Nazareth, then it will be up to Manny, and Dan and Pete to make sure they differentiate between the two groups. Good luck!



Manny is a quarter owner of Naz, perhaps the reason he's been able to survive confortably for 17 years! Another possible scenario (just a thought) : Has Darrell's estate (which presumably owns a quarter of Naz too) sided with Manny, making this situation as it is?



Ray - whether it's anyone's business or not, you aren't going to stop specualtion. Human nature.



As for Nazareth asking fanz to phone venues to try and stop venues booking 'the other' Naz. A silly thing for Nazareth to ask of fanz, especially under restriction of trade laws. Some smartarse made a trite statement about Manny suing fanz on the Nazforum. A bit silly when Naz may be setting the fanz up to be sued themselves, methinks!



Bad Bax - No fence sitting, I'd happily see both Naz groups, and if GW doesn't like that, well pass me another beer, Osama!



New Naz band - Nazareth with two time guitarist, Billy Rankin? It could be a winner! The encore will be Eastenders and Championi!!

Hey Dougie, you certainly know your Naz stuff.

Love it!

Watched Billy last night with SAHB after Rock Radio's birthday party.

(I had a VIP pass for the aftershow jam session.)

He played both your encores and called Zal a rude word!

(Zal wasn't even there!)

A twist in the tale?

For the sake of this blog,let's hope so.

By the way, "Two-time guitarist"?

Did he cheat on Dan,Pete,Manny,and Zal?

What a Slut!

Hey Dougie!! How are ya? Oh I know its human nature.Its just that there is more to this than anybody knows and realises.Darrell estate has nothing to do with this.I can say that much.Of course, money is involved in just about anything.But like I said,there is more to this than people realise. I would be happy to see Pete and Dan play one day,I dont want anybody to misunderstand me about that.Basically all I am saying is that alot of people are talking about something that they have no facts to.When this is all done and over with.....everybody will then understand.Hope you are doing good and for all those reading this...Keep Rockin,Ray

Hey Dougie, you certainly know your Naz stuff.

Love it!

Watched Billy last night with SAHB after Rock Radio's birthday party.

(I had a VIP pass for the aftershow jam session.)

He played both your encores and called Zal a rude word!

(Zal wasn't even there!)

A twist in the tale?

For the sake of this blog,let's hope so.

By the way, "Two-time guitarist"?

Did he cheat on Dan,Pete,Manny,and Zal?

What a Slut!

Well Ray iam very intrested to hear how you have come to know all this inside information that the rest of us Naz fanz know nothing about ?? You see iam thinking your information is coming from Manny possibly, therfore of course while we naz fanz are discussing something that we know nothing about which you keep reminding us about you are geting your info from a bitter twisted ex sacked Nazareth member . That of course is a one sided opinion as I dont think you have had the chance to sit down and have a natter with dan or pete. You see the real Nazareth have never had a habbit of befreinding fanz and spilling the beans over internal affairs unlike of course our American based ex member who seems to have re written histoty agording to Nazarethlive bio



Regarding Money ok lets say that Manny doesnt need the money thats fine so please answer my original question why why why after 17 years has he decided to go on tour as Nazareth ????

When Manny first went out on tour after being sacked in the 90's he went on a uk tour called the Manny Charlton Band . Why then did he not call himself Nazareth ??

Years later once he moved to Texas he got himself another band and called it The Manny Charlton band , why at that point did he not call himself Nazareth ??Most recently he joined a band with Nicky Moore , produced a great CD and went on a mini tour , why didnt he call himself Nazareth then ??

You see I understand that he has the right , I understand that he produced , wrote and played on all the great naz tracks but cant understand that as Nazareth are about to celabrate their 40th year and release a brand new CD that he has decided to do this after all this time. Shame on you Manny !!



P.s I also seen the statement on Manny's site more or less saying that if any discussion on his site was aired they could me named in legal action. For someone who has supported this guy from that start that stinks !!!

What is Manny's tour going to be called " TOP UP THE PENSION FUND TOUR "

Hey Dougie, you certainly know your Naz stuff.

Love it!

Watched Billy last night with SAHB after Rock Radio's birthday party.

(I had a VIP pass for the aftershow jam session.)

He played both your encores and called Zal a rude word!

(Zal wasn't even there!)

A twist in the tale?

For the sake of this blog,let's hope so.

By the way, "Two-time guitarist"?

Did he cheat on Dan,Pete,Manny,and Zal?

What a Slut!

Hey Anita, three times I luv ya!



I guess my VIP invite must have been lost in the post. Rude words? I'm sure when Zal gets over his 'Farmer Giles', he'll have a few words to say to the Kirkie bluenose. What about Jon Morrison, eh?



Nazareth featuring BR the two-timing guitarist? That sounds good as well!!



Tell Billy to keep well and stop accepting long distance phone calls!

Hey Ray, I'm good, hope you are too my friend.



I know there's loads we all don't know, personally all the legal shit I don't want to know anyway. I just want to see some of my favourite bands/rockers making music and playing live. The thing about Darrell's estate was just a guess - an example I suppose of how many factors there could be in all of this.



Both sides haven't handled this very well, IMHO.



A few more points from me:



I guess Manny is touring now because it is HIS 40th year as well, the year he turned pro. A guess I know, but it makes sense.



I'm pretty sure Naz will disuss the situation with their mates (rather than fans) as I'm sure Manny will too. Human nature again. Perhaps that's why Ray knows? Does it matter?



Manny 'bitter and twisted'. Surely that's a one sided opinion too?



I'll tell you what though, both versions of Naz have some publicity out of this, there was big articles in yesterday's Daily Mail and Metro newspapers, and unless you're Gary Glitter, any publicity is good publicity. Headline in the Mail incidentally was 'Nazareth's Second Coming.'

Call it legal rights, call it money, call it 1/4 naz, call it whatever... Just read the fans comments: most of us dont want, or need, Am-Naz. As simple as that.

Hey Judas



What, out of about 20 fans at most who've made their feelings felt, about half of whom are happy, or at least accepting, of Manny's Naz? Hardly scientific proof!



Wait till 'Am-Naz' (good title!) starts touring, if it bombs or if it succeeds. Then we'll know.



PK Bowman's philosophy is a good one, methinks!

From the Anonymous Dirty Dozen Manny Charlton supporters



This letter is in defence of Manny Charlton from the anonymous dirty dozen supporters. We feel that when an injustice has been created and done to an individual with false allegations and misleading information we will not be idle and let those persons persist in attacking another person and getting away without recourse. We will not spare the rod to anyone with our commentary.

.Seek the truth... Find the truth... Set yourself free.



"As Billy Blog said" F#@% Y%$# we're right, your wrong"



Quote:"First of all why after 17 years and different solo bands and solo CD's has Manny decided to go out on tour as Nazareth with another band that have their own history which by the way hasnt managed to make it on the bio page

of Nazarethlive."



Manny has every legal right to use the name and go out as Nazareth. For further clarification please read openning letter. @ http://www.nazarethlive.com Your answers lay within that letter. Read between the lines.



As far as the Nazarethlive bio page. What does the phrase "Under construction" or "Coming soon" mean to you?

To us it means that the information hasn't been added yet. Simple!



Quote: " 17 years without a proper job and selling a few hundred solo cd's .. blah blah, blah..."



Where in the world a you coming from?

It's clowns like you that leed the blind astray without any facts. A Sherlock Holmes you are not.

Making up stories from insignificant events to suit your delusions. Stop trying to read between the lines when you can't read what has been placed right in front of you.



Advertising his guitars for sale

Is it against the law to sell personal items over the Internet?

Not having a proper job

So a musician in your books is not a proper Job?

The Hair of The Dog" DVD release?

Dan and Pete are the ones that did the reissue of the live Hair of the Dog DVD.



Quote: "But what I do think many but clearly not all fans grudge is Manny destroying the Nazareth brand and legacy that he helped make by going out as a second Nazareth."



Dan and Pete have been destroying the the Nazareth brand and legacy since the dismissal of Manny Charlton and Billy Rankin soon after.

The two best songwriters and hit makers they ever had.

They had two gifted horses in their stable and shot both of them dead. Thats not a legacy, its stupidity at its best.



Get over it Dan and Petes Nazareth are just another cover band. Lets look at your cover band and examine them.

Night after night they run through the Nazareth setlist.

All songs done in 4/4 waltz time with Jimmy adding Eddie Van Halen licks to Mannys guitar music. Boring and un-inspiring sickening.



Blasphemous indeed!!!



The above reasons would suggest to us why Manny has decided to go out and reclaim his music and play it the way it was meant to be played. Those songs are Mannys trademark along with the name Nazareth.

Not to be butchered from some hack guitar player and second rate band.



Now you tell us whos out just to make money and pad their retirement fund before calling it quits.



Quote:"Regarding the statement on the Naz forum well i am glad they made a statement, because before they broke the news Manny hadnt even mentioned it on his own website"



Keep living in a dreamland



Would you post something on a forum based on fiction? besides your sex site

Why would Mannys administrators post anything based on fiction?



Pete's brain fart posting "Urgent News" Nothing like sabotaging yourself and destroying your career based on rumors, inuendos and fiction.



Fans should be outragged that they asked them to partake in an illegal activity as running interference for them and phoning venues to cancel. From what we understand someone else has been named in a lawsuit for running interferance as suggest by Pete.



How low can Dan and Pete stoop?



Well it looks as if they can go lower with the recent newspaper article.

Never have we seen something so contrived in our lives. Lowest of the low. Nazareth looking for web based justice and public opinion.



Are these truly your heros?



The only side that hasn't handled this well is the Nazareth side.

People bitch slapping Mannys board for censoring.



The smart person lets their suits handle it and remain silent

.

Unlike "Petes Forum" They let the demons run amuck. Stirring the s#%t pot to which they have no clue or answers. We guess if you get back stage and have a

beer with the boys everybody figures their entittled to the celebrity and a well misplaced opinion.



As far as other censoring on Mannys board,

Judas We have seen your post before it was removed.

You didn't state any opninion. It was a straight out

attack against Manny.



So when you and Hammi get on Petes forum and lie about how innocent you are and attack others for having a difference of opinions. With a run and gun coward attitude. We are calling you on your bulls#%t and showing the rest who you really are.



If you think theres no censorship on Petes forum.Go ahead and post something radical. Keep believing and telling yourself and others that no censorship has happened

We all know other wise.



Quote:"What ever anyones opinion is on the current band is you can not take away the fact that Dan and Pete have remained in the band that has recorded and toured for 40 years"



Are you serious? Milking something for 40 years is something to be proud of.??

Since 1994 they have been dragging the Nazareth name through the mud. You can't give them any credit. They have been riding a dead horse. 3 recordings in 18 years please spare us that line of thinking.



Quote:"wonder why Nazarethlive doesnt have a forum yet .... perhaps scare off potential bookings"



Who said Nazarethlive were ever going to have a forum?

Again we don't know where your gathering your information from. We do know that they will be feeding fans video and mp3 for free. Thats all it said. Nothing else was mentioned or promised on the nazarethlive board.

Go back and check it to verify that we a telling you the truth.



Quote: "P.s I also seen the statement on Manny's site more or less saying that if any discussion on his site was aired they could me named in legal action.

For someone who has supported this guy from that start that stinks !!! What is Manny's tour going to be called

"TOP UP THE PENSION FUND TOUR"



Mannys tour is called "My Own Way To Rock" or "Nazareths Bitch Is Back" Don't quote us on it, we are just speculating as you are.



Fake Naz Fan, Anon poster, Judas

Learn how to read. Stop posting your spin and retoric.

Manny never threatened to sue anyone at anytime. Thats a fact. Your to bloody self indulged to see what was meant by the posted statement. Post the original statement if you dare

Highlight and show everyone here and on Petes forum from where your information is proof positive. More persons to call bulls#%t from.



As for all the accusations that Manny is the main s#&t disturber and cause for all this grief.

Turn your finger around and point it at yourself.And that cover band you love so dearly.



For all the bitching about censorship on Mannys forum.

Anyone out there produce your evidence post something???? anything????

You can't because you have nothing. that was posted on his forum.

On the other hand we have plenty of posts that have appeared on Petes forum.



In conclussion we know that this commentary , will not sit well with any "Nazareth with founding members Dan and Pete" fan. We gaurantee they will be crying the blues and demand that it be taken down from this blog.

The will be crying bloody blue murder "censor it" , "censor it." Heres hope that freedom of speech exists and it remains posted. As long as the "Urgent News" remains posted may this remain posted.



let us paraphrase

No doubt all you Nazareth nutters will have your nickers in a twist over this post but as someone once said .... let the money do the talking and We know where our Nazareth money's on . THE REAL NAZARETH -

THE ONE AND ONLY REAL NAZARETH - MANNY CHALTONS NAZARETH.



The Anonymous Dirty Dozen Manny Charlton Supporters.

Well, I was in the bar the other night discussing music and I asked 11 of my mates what they thought about the AmNaz band and whether they thought it sucked. 10 agreed that it sucked and 1 person didn't care. Nuff said. -All I can see is 1000s real naz fans getting totally disappointed once they go to the gig and discovers that it is only Manny & his mates. -It will leave people disappointed; even if the singer can sing in tune.

Billy



I hope you and your family had a great Christmas and New Year.



When I read the above posts all I can say I was shocked and dismayed at the extremes people are willing to go.



The level of pure hate being generated by these cowardly anonymous/handled posters has gone beyond anything normal.



A few have been banned on Mannys and Nazareth forums, I guess you are the only salvation for them.



With all honesty I don't care whos' side these people are on. This is not funny or amusing anymore.



The people that are responcible for writing such trash posts should have their heads examined.



I have always supported Nazareth and Manny with equal vigor and excitement. I will continue to support these bands no mater what incarnation they become.

"The World Is Big Enough"



What has happened to people , why can't anyone just be a fan to the music



My keyboard becomes forever silent about this topic and hope the two parties can get this issue resolved quickly so we can get back to some good rock n roll.



Support you local Rock Bands

M.K. Dorman

Sad sad indeed that this once happy family has turned against each other in this way, as in any family throughout the years we have all had disagreements , and fall outs but never in the history of any forum could I remember this sort of thing........ That of course is beacuse as a Nazareth fan you were always going to be a Manny fan , with that you had the best of both worlds , you could support Nazareth and Manny through his solo CD's and website. This of course is until now , people keep stressing the legal side , iam discussing the moral side. Manny has created this rift between the fanz by his attempt to re live the Hair of the Dog days ... what a shame . That is something that I will NEVER forgive regardless of his legal right which again hasnt had the need to use until 17 years down the line. You forget that I was a massive Manny fan even though iam not an admistrator on his site or been mentioned in the "thanks section" on his CD like the above posters. As to stirring the shit, wonder why the very first poster came to a Billy Rankin blog ????? Censorship was also mentioned .... does anyone else remember a post coming from MK Dorman on Manny's forum a while back saying he wanted nothing more to do with Manny's forum because of censorship ... why the turnaround , did he send you an old guitar or get you to polish up another vintage concert from the vaults ???

While the real Nazareth's forum has had postings on this you can not disagree that they are trying to keep the posts under control rather than of course ban you.As I said what a shame Manny has played a massive part in destroying the Nazareth brand Shame on you !

dirty dozen, I've never read that much shit anywhere before. you hit the bottom. a shame manny has fans like you, hope he never read your totaly stupid inpolite comment. enough said. judas

Sad indeed Real Naz Fan

I'm totaly against the posting of The Dirty Dozen

article 30. Everyone can have their disagreements

when someone takes it to far. I'll speak up.

I don't care whos favourite band you want to back.



Your attack directed right at me and you really haven't said anything about the above post. So are you telling this blog your the one that posted that vile piece of garbage? Trying to make it appear this was coming from Mannys people to back up your arguments. It shows your lack of respect for anyone else having an opinion except your own. Your one of the people that have been banned from Mannys forum. It must be the case because you keep bringing it up. Thanks for the confession.

Your a coward, A wee mindless peace of dirt.Can't post your real name. Have to hide behind a handle. Big man hiding behind a computer screen and keyboard. You are propably one of those people that like to e-mail everyone in private with your threats.

Why the turn around and go back to Mannys forum

Because the webmaster needed my assistance. I guess you really wouldn't know about helping friends when they are in need. My affiliation with Manny is really none of your bussiness. Go ahead and take your shots. I will go polish some more vintage stuff and post it.



Thanks for the confession - (Real Naz Fan-Anon-The Dirty Dozen) or whatever you want to call yourself.

Your a traitor to the fans, Nazareth and Manny.



Shame on you!



M.K. Dorman

Hey you The Anonymous Dirty Dozen Manny Charlton Supporters!



Apart from the fact that your "coming out" was very boring to read cause it contained no information, just pure hate, I my say that I doubt you are even a real dozen (12 people). Not even half a dozen. Better change your name in "The Lonesome Manny Fanatic(s)"



Fat Man

There is a saying going like this; The king can't choose his people but the people can choose their king. Well, a rock band or artist can't choose their followers, we the fans choose our favourites. No legal stuff can decide whose right when it comes to who we support.



No one has ever written a single bad word about Mannys contribution to Naz or his later projects, but God how many rude and bad comments there has been about Nazareth.



I have stated my opinion about what I feel about a new Naz, but never a word about Manny as an artist. Manny has always been, and probably still is, a great musician.



But as a fan I have all rights to express that I not like the idea of a new band.



I'm sorry if my writings about this has been expressed as if I don't respect Manny. I do. But still I think the new band is a very bad idea.

Sir, sir, it's Manny's fault 'cos we're morally right and he's got a sinister mooostache.



Sir, sir, it's Pete's fault 'cos we're legally right and he's got a beard and a bald heid.



Sir, sir, it's Billy's fault 'cos he's letting them fight and pishing himself laughing.





They've banned someone from their forum? We'll ban someone too.



They've deleted threads from their forums? We'll delete threads too.



This is great fun, wonder what we'll all do when we grow up to be big boys!





Rain the Baw Heids and the (not so) nice bhoys

No Malice Intended PAL(s)

Hey you The Anonymous Dirty Dozen Manny Charlton Supporters!



Apart from the fact that your "coming out" was very boring to read cause it contained no information, just pure hate, I my say that I doubt you are even a real dozen (12 people). Not even half a dozen. Better change your name in "The Lonesome Manny Fanatic(s)"



Fat Man

How many newspapers has Manny contacted to bleat to? Uh....none.



Quote from Daily Express:

Pete Agnew also added: "... we have ended an otherwise great year with a sad situation involving an ex member forming a new band and naming it Nazareth. I don't really want to talk about this in this message to you all but I knew you would think it weird if I didn't mention it....blah blah blah"



If he didn't want to talk about it why did he contact them and quote word for word exactly what is on his website?



If Pete and Dan can go out on the road with their kids and all their relatives and call it "Nazareth", why is everyone so upset that Manny, who wrote and produced nearly all the music, is going out to play the music he helped create? Why is it Manny can write,record and produce cd after cd and yet Dan and Pete can do ??????



What are Dan and Pete so afraid of?



Not needing America...they better start looking for a council flat!!!!!

Pathetic "news" on Mannys homepage, pathetic "news" on nazarethlive.com, pathetic discussion. Manny himself has now brought a new dimention into this debate with his "news". Why not just realize that most fans don't need or want AmNaz. Legal rights or not. They are not wanted. as simple as that.



Judas

MANNY CHARLTON, CREATIVE FORCE BEHIND THE NAZARETH SOUND That will be why his first album/single is going to be 2 covers - All Right Now by Free and Bad Compnay - See below link and read the review (not submitted by myself I may add.

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/nazareth/albums/album/18120825/bad_company



So I wonder why Manny has decided to re record All Right Now By Free then, as ive said before cause he is a smart bussiness man thats why , he knows that this song is the most played rock song on American radio and that by recording this he might get some airplay - fair do's but hardly very original coming from the GREAT MUSICAL FORCE behind Nazareth , rather lazy I think . Oh and again no news of this on nazraethlive.com , still under contruction I suppose ..



Lets look at the history page "Manny Charlton had had enough, and quit Nazareth to pursue a career as a producer and solo artist"



Thats seems a bit different to his statement made to the Dunfermline Press in June 1990 taken from Billy rankins website ""Basically I was fired"



Also "Their Manny Charlton penned signature tune “Hair of the Dog” - last time I looked at Hair of the Dog writing credits are McCafferty/Agnew/Sweet/Charlton- seems like history is being re written here .....



Also "I wrote, produced and defined the NAZARETH sound that was so successful in the 70’s" Ok fair enough but what about those 80s albums that were less succesfull ...I suppose that was all Dan , Pete and Darrells fault then ? I may add that inside Hair Of The Dog eagal remaster Manny is quoted saying "Although I was credited as being the producer is was a real team effort" I also ask this question the first thing you think of when you think of Nazareth the VOICE or the Guitar ? mmmmm yeh it was that real original guitar sound NOT !!- You see the first album that got me into Nazareth was Boogaloo because of the VOICE , iam not saying for one minute that this is their best album but the point is it wasnt that 70's guitar sound that got me hooked. Why doesnt he have on his website that the thing that made Nazareth differant to everbody else in the 70's was beacuse they didnt have McCafferty on vocals thats why !



Also his website still seems to have no information about the NEW Nazareth , why is this ?? A) He doesnt want anybody to know that this band were called Brand New Machine and will likely have a track on the up and coming tribute cd or as I like to call it the up and coming find a new band cd and he has basically come along and said to these guys "hay fancy calling yourself Nazareth and touring the world untill my pension is topped up "

or B) Still under construction .....2 months down the line !

My predictions are this ... Manny will tour this year( mostly places the real Nazareth dont go anymore) , have great merch available on his website(knowing that the real Nazareth doesnt have one , release an album full of re recorded Nazareth songs or re done solo songs to sell on the road and his website and call it a day after a year because he has left to persue a solo career and produce well known rock bands :-)

If you read this Manny please change the name and you will have ALL nazareth fanz behind you 100% but dont suppose that will happen ..... what a real shame

Real Naz Fan, Judas, Fat Man a.k.a Mindless Brainwashed Idiots. You sure go to Manny's website alot. You didn't get into Naz until Boogalo (worst cd ever..up until Newz)and you call yourself a real naz fan??? I've laughed for a week over that one. It is time the retreads got another guitar player since the guitar players are the only ones that are able to write, apart from this latest one, must be another cousin. BTW you almost got it right AmNaz s/b IAMNaz.

Your pathetic Jud(ass), It seems you do have an honour among thieves with Dan and Pete. Nazareth have ripped off Manny, Billy, Zal, past producers and a few others that have been involved with them these past 40 years.

Why not realize that 99.9% of the people want to hear Mannys Nazareth not your old dried up fart sacks.



Both you and Real(Ass)Fan, Two childish men drowning and clutching at straws.

Bad Company, Alright Now , Great choice for songs, it must twist your knickers in a knot to have Rolling Stone not care anything about scotlands Nazareth and cover Mannys Nazareth.

If your going by psyco Larry's blurb based on a flawed sample , then you are the towns idiot.



Still ragging on the http://www.nazarethlive.com site.

Why do you go there if it tortures you so much. Your not a fan, but you keep going back. You might have a mental insanity problem, compulsive disorder, Bi-polar.



First album that got you into Nazareth was (Bog-a-ewe)

my condolences for not having hearing taste.

Dan really doesn't have a voice if you listen carefuly to his solo cds. He can't sing other peoples songs.

Thats a fact....

You should go back and find some original vinyl albums and read the liner notes. Taking quotes out of context from the 20000 interviews trying to make an arguement is absurd.



Manny did write "Hair of the Dog" same as Billy wrote

"Dream On". They have the proof ,But you can't see that.

Lets ask Billy about "Dream On"

Never mind ,on later reissued CDs the liner notes say that all Nazareth wrote it or have credit to it. Hmmmmmmmmm sounds like theft to me. I could of swore Billy said he wrote it. I think he even claims that on his website or he has the demo.

So whos lying real naz fan. Billy Or Dan & Pete / Manny or Dan & Pete. Sounds like Dan and Pete are trying to rewrite the history to suit their own self absorbed needs.



My predictions are this ... Manny will tour this year everywhere to sell out crowds. You won't be there. Judas won't be there. The Nazareth Tribute CD will be a huge success. The Manny charlton Nazareth album will be a huge success. everyone one will sing his praise.



Dan and Pete are going to get into the bricklaying business real soon. They will be broke and Nazareth will exist no more. The 35 people who bought the newz cd will burn them and ask eternal God for forgiveness.. Their children will go back home and get real jobs.



Check out the the latest news from TMZ about your

Nazareth. it speaks volume about your heros.

The above post must be the best one yet .... Dan cant sing !!! and its me that has mental insanity problems ?, well it looks like Manny's freinds have lost all sense of reality . I suppose Pete cant play bass and Darell cant play drums . It sounds like Nazareth were infact . the Manny Charlton band then , he wrote , produced , told Dan how to sing , Pete how to play bass and Darell how to play drums ...... but what happened after he was sacked .... he went onto such great success that after 17 years he has had to return to using the Nazareth name ????? Oh and iam more than sure racked with guilt over getting royalty cheques through the post for Dream On he sent them back to Scotland to Billy with all his love ??

It also seems funny that you have heard Nazareths new album when it hasnt been released yet . Watch out folks it seems that anyone that has an opinion on Manny are psyco's well maby you should visit Deep Purple's forum and Foghat forum , cause it seems that even non Nazareth fanz think the big man is cashing in . It seems as well that the 3 directors of Nazareth yes thats Darell too by the way cheated and scammed everyone they worked with and THEY HAVE PROOF . Well why hasnt all these hard done by guitar players , producers take them to court ??? It also seems like you have a problem with the people who work for Nazareth , its funny that becasue at least Nazareth pay their workers , what are you getting for your nasty remarks - a free CD through the post , a thanks in the thanks section on the next re done nazareth album or an old Manny guitar that you will try and sell on ebay in a few months time ?? As for bricklaying they could ask Manny for tips I suppose as he is the man that knows and does everything . Thats a fact ... What a shame that when given a debate sad little people need to retort with nasty remarks well done Big Boy

The sad thing about this discussion is the low content of facts from the "AmNaz"-camp. Why not stop using all your shit-words and bring some content into the discussion. If you realy have read my comments you might have found that I have nothing against manny. What I say is I don't like the idea of Brand New Machine renamed to nazareth. And I, and a "few" others don't need Brand New machine. So please stop your shit-throwing against people who at least try to make a serious discussion. Btw; I've been a fan since 1973, and probably spent more money on naz records than you can imagine. I've followed naz for 35 years and still love 1970's Naz, 80's Naz, some of the 90*s Naz. I did not like the Naz I saw live late 90's, but the Naz anno 2007 was G O O D. Sorry you never had the chance to hear them...



Judas

Judas, Real Naz Fan and Others.



Why do you guys carry on with this stuff?

You are being goated into these ridiculous arguements.

The people that should be answering these questions

or concerns should be Dan, Pete and Manny.

I don't see them in this blog or answering to

anyone on their forums.

Billy sits back and laughs not answering to anything.

I for one don't care what personal matters that

Nazareth and Manny have going on.

I respect both camps and their right to privacy.

I thank both camps for the music and entertainment

that they have given us over the years.

Both sides are still giving music to the fans.

Adversity between people sometimes creates the best

music ever heard.

Who benefits from this?

The buying fans benefit from it, as well as the coffers

of Nazareth and Manny Charlton.

Is it in anyones interest to sling mud back and forth

over things we do not know. I'm sure there is alot of

disappointment for fans on both sides of this issue.

Dan, Pete and Manny don't seem to be affected by this.

Everyone is coming out with new albums and carrying on

their business as if nothing is happening. Maybe we should be doing the same. Other bands have gone through this type of metamorphus since rock began. It will right itself in the end. Support both bands and their music.

Lets all become a happy family and enjoy the fruits of

Dan, Pete and Mannys labour of love for music and

entertainment.



Give some thought to this message. Lifes to short.

Pass it around

Children, children, is this any way to behave? Shame on all of you. Let us embrace each other with love & hugs and remember who we are.



Doesn't Dan say, "peace & love brother's and sister's" at the end of every concert? Yes he does and we should all do just that.

Well said Heavy Thinker. Sorry there never got any good and serious discussion out of this. Only bad words and hate. I "retire" from this thread. Judas

Real Naz Fan whos girlfriend are you? Petes or Dans?

This is all actually very sad. You would think that after 17 years people would be able to let things go, and forgive.



Now the Manny forum has an "uncensored" debate club. However you still have to be careful what you say, or you will be banned and censored. I know because I was. I posted a little history of the american musicians in Manny's band, but I was banned for posting personal information about others. So much for an uncensored debate!



I've known two of the members for almost 30 years. I have been in two bands in the past with one of them, most recently as 1 1/2 years ago. This was just proir to the other member hijacking a band I was a "founding member" of and then changing it into Brand New Machine. I know these guys, and I am very familiar with the kind of people they are, so none of this situation surprises me. All I can say to Manny is good luck, you'll need it! If anyone is interested in their backgrounds please contact me directly. zark1959@hotmail.com



The tribute cd wasn't just a vehicle for Manny to find a new band. One of the "new" members was involved in the Naz tribute cd with his wife and Lawyer friend prior to joining the new Nazareth. He has been trying for the last year and a half to get his band Brand New Machine on a few tributes. He succeeded in getting a tune on Sensory Lullibies a tribute to Jellyfish. This was the first incarnation of BNM before he fired a great druimmer and the singer got pissed at him and quit. He then added another drummer and singer, but then screwed the new singer and the bass player by abandoning BNM in faver of Manny's project. I wonder how successful the tribute will be since it's just a bunch of bands no one has ever heard of anyway.



This situation is all about labeling. Why couldn't Manny have billed this venture as Manny Charlton's Nazareth. It would have avoided a lot of confusion and bad blood. I think that it is exactly what they waned though, to stir up controversey, get people talking and get publicity. To that end it is working very well. Manny has a perfect right to go out and play the songs, I just don't agree that it is morally right to call it Nazareth with founding member Manny Charlton. I'll bet most venues that book them will leave off the founding member part and just call it Nazareth. I really feel sorry for all parties involved.

As I thought all along regarding the tribute Cd , just away to find a new band , and misslead Nazreth fanz . I feel sorry for all the bands that have submitted great songs for what would have been a great CD, however I know a lot of fanz wil bycott the CD because of the sneaky way Manny and his pals have acted. It seems that the new Nazareth members are going to be well suited. The new members in it to be in a named band and the other in it for the money . Looks like all my predictions are coming true. Now I wonder when the new Nazareth with founding member Manny CD is going to be released with re recorded Nazareth and Manny solo songs ??Not long I think

Just to clarify my previous post. My intent is not to "dish dirt". I am mearly presenting facts as I know them, and since there is nothing listed about the amnaz musicians, I thought maybe some people would be interested in their backgrounds. As for any grudges, you'd have to ask two of them specifically.

This guy is unbelievable!!How did I 'hijack' your band?? If I remember correctly(and I do)YOU QUIT!! And if trying to do something more than play weekends in and around this shithole area(all you will ever do/have done)makes me a bad person SO BE IT !!

All you children should give each other a great BIG hug. Uncle Billy may have to give you a good spanking for all these angry comments. The world should be full of love not anger and bitterness. This discussion should also be moved to NaZaleth 2 and remember, "peace & love brother's and sister's"!!!

Dang, I was trying to leave names out of this, and then you pipe up.



You only assume that I think you are a bad person. Just because I don't like or agree with someone it doesn't mean they are a bad person.



I am perfectly happy being a weekend warrior. I knew a long time ago that Rockstardom was a longshot at best. Just because I have never been in a signed band or toured the country or the world doesn't make me any less of a person than you. I just chose to do something different with my life, rather than being a 46 year old man that still is chasing the dream of being a Rockstar. Not that there is anything wrong with that if that is what you choose to do, I guess I tend to be more of a realist.



I actually hope you make a ton of money off of your current projects. The better off you are financially the better it is for your family. What you do with your own life is your business. But since you choose to be in the public eye you need to take the good with the bad. There will always be people who don't like you, no matter what you do or say.



As far as calling the area I love and call home (Southwestern Michigan)a shithole. If it is so bad why did you move back here? Maybe you should go back to Texas or Georgia or wherever you were living before.



If you feel like continuing this further, just email me. At least you are able to respond here though. People can make comments about me on Manny's forum (thanks Dougie), but since I am banned I have no way to view or respond to posts that reference me directly. How fair is that? Luckily I have friends that let me know if I am being referred to over there.



Good luck with the tour and with the tribute cd projects. Later!

Hello Jon Ster, bassist for Nazareth with founding member Manny Charlton! I was leaving names out of this but you are soooooo easy to rile up. I love the shouting and cursing by the way.



I never said you were a bad person. Just because I don't like you, and don't agree with you doesn't make you a bad person. You assume a lot there bucko.



Just because I have never been in a touring signed band that doesn't make me a bad person either. I realized a long time ago that rock stardom was a longshot at best, and chose to do something else with my life instead of being a middle aged man with a family still chasing my dreams. Dreams are nice but they don't pay the bills.



But hey it's your life and you can do whatever you want with it. I actually hope you make tons of cash with all your ventures. Then you can move away from this "shithole".





Also, if this area that I love and call home is such a "shithole", why did you move back here? If you dislike it that much please go back to Texas, or Georgia , or wherever it is you came from.





You are a big boy who has chosen to live life in the public eye by being a performer. Not everyone is going to like you, or like the bands you are in. Maybe you need to thicken up your skin a little bit. What are you going to do if Nazareth with founding member Manny Charlton gets a bad review, are you going to go after the reviewer?



If you feel like discussing my comment about Hijacking Big Bang, just email me directly, this is not the place. At least you can reply to me here though. How fair is it that I am banned from the Manny forum, but there are posts made after I was banned, pertaining to me, that I can not reply too. (thanks for being a tattle tale Dougie)



Good luck with the band, tour and tribute cd. I hope you stay really busy and make lots of money.

This was just forworded to me from Manny's forum by a friend.



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mcb wrote:

Your right to privacy....





One more rule to this section people.

If you want to give personal information about yourself out in your posts.

thats your option.

We will not tolerate people giving out personal private confidential information

on other people and using it against other people for whatever reason.



Zark1959 has been banned and his post have been removed .





Which is possibly why he has made a post on Billy's blog abusing one of Manny's band (with whom he obviously has a grudge) and asking fans to email him and he will 'dish the dirt'.



For a churchgoer and a Christian, it's a rather un-Christian act, IMO.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: A Weasel Among Us



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Heres a tit for tat bashing...



Zark1959 (Mark) asked that we remove his posts totaly.

He then goes over to Billys blog and comes out with a pack

of total lies.

He is the person that sends threatening e-mails out to

individuals under his many alias.



He has now tried to log onto this forum 8 or 9 times under

different handles and is probably back among us.



We are here to inform and warn you he is one of many faces.

That have appeared in this forum and on Billys blog..



He is and has been ..



nazzer

Billy bob

Real Naz Fan,

The Dirty Dozen

Zark1959

etc...



The man is not a christian or "God" fearing man by any stretch.

He is a hypocrite of the worst kind. He has no dirt on anyone.

Hes' a fustrated little man with big world problems. so don't

give him the time of day involving yourself in his sick twisted

little fantasy world.



A little proof please! Threatening email? Let's see them. Pack of lies? Back it up with facts! I have logged onto Manny's forum as Zark1959, Billybob, Nazzer and Homer. I have only logged onto this forum under Zark. I have no idea who Real Nazfan, or the dirty dozen Nazareth fans are, but that is NOT me.



I asked that all my posts on that forum be deleted because they were edited and the contebt changed. I came to this forum because I knew I wouldn't be censored or Banned.



Once again I ask you how fair is it that posts are made about me on Manny's forum that I can not reply to? I guess it just goes to show you the mindset of the people in Manny's camp. Goodbye!

Get a life.

Zark - you are the one inviting people to email you and give out gossip on one of your old band mates, and you claimed to be a Christian (amazing how many Christians seem to be petty, spiteful idiots, without any understanding of Christan charity) and you have the sheer cheek to say others are indulging in 'tittle tattle'. I'll tell you what my friend, I'd say the type of guy who seems obsessed beyond belief by what his ex-bandmates are doing, posts under numerous aliases and talks crap about said ex-friends needs to take a long good hard look at himself.



This comment you made says so much about yourself: "Hello Jon Ster, bassist for Nazareth with founding member Manny Charlton! I was leaving names out of this but you are soooooo easy to rile up." I must have missed the bit in the Bible were riling up, causing trouble and causing arguments through jealousy are good decent Christian acts!

Real Naz Fan you are a sad pathetic loser. The assumptions you make display what a bitter twisted joke you are. The people submitting songs to the Tribute CD are honored to be a part of the music that influenced their lives (I know because I will be on that CD and damn proud of it), but you wouldn't know anything about honor and integrity would you?

I heard there was going to be a Nazareth Tribute CD called RUBY released in the Autumn of 2008,

but to my knowlege there has been no such release.

I visited the "naztribute" website as well, and I read the names of the artists who have been chosen for Disc 1.

I heard some of the sound samples of various Nazareth tribute bands on Myspace and I was impressed with the renditions of Nazareth songs.

I look forward to hearing the 2 disc set

[if and when it ever gets released.]

I've also noticed that the Nazareth members from the UK have not "acknowleged" the tribute artists in any way, shape or form.

To my knowlege, the tribute artists have never intentionally wronged those guys, therefore,

I think that's really pissy of them,

and for that, I say they suck.

I have spoken, and reguardless of any negative response I may recieve reguarding this matter,

I shall not be swayed, nor will I apologize.

WTF signing off!

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